S4E2 - Creating Woman a Day YYC with Danaye Maier

This week, we connect with Calgary morning-show host and creator of Woman A Day YYC, Danaye Maier.

Danaye has found her creative voice through the development of an incredible initiative: recognizing a woman a day from the Calgary area. We'll talk about her shift from creative idea to execution, how creativity has shown up in other areas of her life since, and we even get a chance to talk a bit about music - including a return of fan-favourite, Darren McGuinty. 

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Transcript

Seth Anderson: 0:05

I've got a question for you. When was the last time you looked in your closet? It's probably sometime this morning. What did you see? A basket of freshly folded laundry. Maybe a suit or a dress hanging on the rack. Perhaps a pile of old socks sitting in the corner or maybe toe filled with clothes tucked away in the back corner. They've long since forgotten about and have no intention of ever where you get. Back in 2018 Caitlin Anderson looked in her closet, and saw a business opportunity. The Affer mentioned tote was tucked away neatly in the corner, built with clothes from her second pregnancy. One day, she was in the closet cleaning up, realizes she was never going to wear those clothes again. An idea sparked What if she could take them, sell them on Facebook marketplace for a few bucks about another woman and get rid of the clothes at the same time. Unbeknownst to her, that spark would ignite the next phase of her life and career. For most of Caitlin's adult life, she had struggled to find an inclusive environment where she could purchase high quality, affordable plus sized clothing without feeling judged. So one of her ambitions was to create such a space. And over the next few months, as her business really began to take shape. She took pride in being able to provide such a thing to other women who felt the same as she did. In the early days, she was even able to provide a dose of creativity. When one day she came across a plus size mannequin. And it occurred to her that that would be an excellent way for her to display her clothing, and also be able to describe not just what was on the tag, but how they fit so that any woman that was purchasing clothing from her would have a good idea of how that article of clothing was going to fit before they purchased it. And of course, any great business needs a great name. And along the way, she was able to come up with undoubtably one of the best names in the fashion industry today. Curvy bridges. So what does that story have to do with today's episode? Well, today we're gonna be chatting with the name Meyer, who's an amazing woman in her own right, and wears many hats, including being one of the morning show hosts on 98.5 Virgin radio, lead singer of the morning girls in the Microsoft mom, wife, as well as running an amazing Instagram page with a woman a day YYC where over the last three years, she's profiled over 1000 women across the Calgary area for doing amazing things, including my wife, Caitlin, and her company curvy britches. We're also going to learn a little bit about the nays creative process today, which includes something along the lines of winging it until you make it. Let's go. Janae welcome to the dojo. Thanks. Thanks for taking the time to chat with us. Oh, thank

Danaye Maier: 3:24

you so much for having me. This was exciting. Nice to meet you guys that you and I kind of message back and forth a couple of times and feel inspired by by your wife and her new business and everything and nice to meet you too. JC

Seth Anderson: 3:37

likewise. Yeah, so we were chatting a little bit before we hopped in here just about what we're working on this season. And we're really exploring creativity. And one of the cool definitions that I really liked. JP and I talked to this guy, Walter Vandervelde, kind of like a crazy professor dude. And he has a TED talk. And he talked about, you know, creativity really being the sort of the art of connecting things that have never been connected before. And you know, I thought maybe we jump off at our connection point, which is a pretty cool thing that you do the woman a day YYC just kind of randomly came across it. I don't even know how it came across my timeline. And I was like, That's though, I want to nominate my wife. And so like what led you to kind of get that whole thing going.

Unknown: 4:19

So I was I've been in radio for only 18 years, and kind of was always looking for my little little niche thing without knowing I was looking for my little niche thing, if that makes sense. And I worked in it for about 14 years until I had kiddos and that kind of like changed the whole way of the way I looked at everything right? It does. A lot of we will talk about that then everything kind of changes with motherhood. But one of the things that I really struggled with when I was on my second family I had both my babies really close together. They're 18 months apart. I came back to work for my first not leave pregnant again already, which they long and it

Seth Anderson: 5:01

Irish twins.

Unknown: 5:03

Yeah, well, I think Irish twins are like, in the same year, like, I think they're a year apart. So not quite. But yeah, like 18 months apart. I like I just came across a video the other day, it's like my daughter holding my son. It's like that's a baby holding a baby. But one of the things that like I honestly really struggled with, when I was on mat leave was social media. And feeling like I was like, lost in the world of social media, and comparing myself a lot to other women specifically. And we're so bad for that women, in generally just always, like having to, like, hold ourselves up to one another. And sometimes in that comparing and feeling competitive, we have instinctually in our minds start to tear other women down, you know, like, there's just like a lot of negative feelings that go with that. And I think being on that leave, and being in this new life, and this new world, I was trying to find myself kind of thing. So when I got back to work, in January of 2019, from my second Matt leave, I actually started like doing like a lot of social media cleanses, I obviously have to have social media for work, we need it for our profiles and for getting like our show content out and all that stuff. But every weekend, I would go home, I 10am. And I would delete my apps that I've read down the redownload them Sunday night. And just like getting rid of that endless mindless scroll was such like it was like decluttering my brain, honestly, and also taught me that like, my relationship with social media wasn't all that healthy. So fast forward a couple of months after that it was International Women's Day. And we were kind of brainstorming ways of marking the marking the occasion that year. And one of the things I said was that I like wanted to really start to celebrate other women as, as opposed to be competing with them or comparing myself to other women. And then the other thing was, why not celebrate women all year round. So those two things kind of came together. And I decided that I wanted to make it my mission to have women tell me why they think they're awesome. And that is kind of a difficult thing. I still struggle with being able to admit to my accomplishments and to own them. I you know, to accept the compliment and that kind of thing. But it's a really cool thing. When you tell a woman first of all, like I want to hear your story. I think what you're doing is special. And they say oh no, I don't belong here. I don't you know what, that's what we do. And and I'm sorry, I'm generalizing women. I'm sure men have these characteristics too. But this is my world. And you know, we're just really, really quick to be like, No, I don't deserve. And then they're like, Yeah, so I have 17 children, and I've got my doctor, and it's like, oh my gosh, how do you not be how incredibly special you are and how cool your story is. So I made the mission to do it for one year. I was gonna do it from March 8 2019 to march 8 of 2020. And now we're just past the three year mark, and I just profiled my 1000 Woman on right on International Women's Day, which is kind of cool. And that's kind of how the process started. And it has kind of changed into this really cool thing of networking and in person connection. To celebrate the one year anniversary, I held this International Women's Day event on March 5 of 2020. And if you remember what happened a week later the world

JP Gaston: 8:21

start as a day.

Seth Anderson: 8:23

You started. Yeah. Well,

Unknown: 8:28

I'm responsible for the pandemic.

JP Gaston: 8:30

single handedly. We were chatting a little earlier today when we were doing some some show prep. And I think Seth and I were on the same page like Did it start as a woman today? Or were you like, Well, let's start with a woman a year because a woman a day is like that is so ambitious.

Seth Anderson: 8:45

It makes sense when you say now that it was supposed to be a one year project, okay, 300 women, let's go but like,

Unknown: 8:53

yeah, and it was like I start I'm not even joking. I would like to think that this was this like, well, really well thought out process. I decided to do it two days before like 365 women, let's go so I kind of like you know, started compiling a list of you know, notable women in Calgary but I also really wanted to challenge myself to highlight the women that don't always have the platforms to get their stories out there. So while I had great connections in the media, and you know, with like high profile, restaurant owners and that kind of thing, I also really really wanted to make sure that it was all walks of life so right away from the get go I you know, started like pounding the pavement on Instagram, like getting people like I need your story and your story and your story. And it truly was a day by day by day by day thing probably. I want to say until like July of that year, like it took a few months to kind of get the ball rolling and having. I guess I have my bullpen of features that I've kind of always got at all times. But one of the things that I really started from the beginning was really getting the nomination process out there which is just incorrect. urging other women to get involved in lifting other women up and nominating the people in their lives and encouraging men to do the same. It's so interesting. I mean, obviously, my stats on my Instagram page are very, very women heavy and everything, but like, my stats are like 95% women, and it's just like, it blows my mind. Like, honestly, in the first year, I could count on one hand the number of times that a man nominated a woman in his life. I was like,

Seth Anderson: 10:26

Yeah, you're like, it's not like, I'm so happy that, you know, you're reaching out on behalf of your wife. It doesn't happen very often. Which surprised? Yeah, I

Unknown: 10:34

was surprised by that, like strictly from the like, brownie points asked.

Seth Anderson: 10:41

Guys, like,

JP Gaston: 10:45

link in the description.

Seth Anderson: 10:48

Like, it wasn't too difficult of a process to nominate someone like it was actually kind of

Unknown: 10:52

fun. Yeah. And, and honestly, I was talking with a friend over the weekend, like, so what's your criteria? Like, when somebody gets nominate somebody? What's your criteria for choosing? And I'm like, honestly, nominate is just a fancy word for sending me a message. I feature absolutely everyone. I honestly, well, there hasn't been very many situations where I'm like, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't like when I feel like a murderer.

Seth Anderson: 11:14

Knowingly, anyway,

Unknown: 11:16

might be where I draw the line. But no, like, I honestly I want I want to share every single woman story that somebody thinks is worthy of sharing. So, you know, I've featured some people that, you know, I guess have traditional accolades, where they, you know, like I said, have their PhD and a trillion awards and 700,000 followers on Instagram. And then you feature that stay home mom who's hustling with her Etsy business, and is just trying to make a go of it, you know, and I think those are, those are sometimes like, my favorite features, because they are just, they, those women just find it so cool that anybody wants to hear their story. And then of course, with this page, which has become a community of like, there's like 10,000 11,000 followers now, very active, it becomes this whole thing where the women just like rush the comments, and celebrate and lift up and like, it's just, it's so cool. And there's been like really neat connections that have been made with say, like financial planners who have made a challenge to assess 50 Women in a year that they've met on the page with a little bit of financial advice and those kinds of things, too. So, yeah, it's been this really cool ride of taking myself from honestly, generally, in my life, being competitive against women challenging myself to not be and just being like, yeah, I love every woman now.

JP Gaston: 12:33

So criteria are for woman a day, it's a woman. And is it a day?

Unknown: 12:38

Yes. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. And willing to share their story right and not

JP Gaston: 12:42

murder? We forgot that not murder.

Unknown: 12:45

Yes. And not murder. Yeah. So in that first year, I did every single day, actually, you know, I went two years, not missing a day. And then when I hit Yeah, and then yeah, and I had like some health in there where I would like go on vacation, up to northern Saskatchewan, where there's like, no cell service, and I would send all my write ups to a friend had my password over and she would post them for me, but to get like a little bit of a break in there. But then I hit the two year mark, and I was like, Okay, I tend to be kind to myself now. So I don't post on weekends. So I feel like I am a bit of a liar. They should change it to a woman a weekday why? Why see?

Seth Anderson: 13:28

Still, like 200 plus women a year and that's one thing I underestimated, I think in JP knows, because I complain about all the social media, like the effort required to keep it up. I mean, Gary Vee talks about doing like three posts a day, and I don't know what the hell who's doing that? Because it's not me because, like one a day, like, think it through and come up with something that is interesting and useful and come up with all the copy and the imagery. I mean, luckily for you, I guess they provide the picture to you. But still, you got to pull all that together. And kudos. That's a lot of work.

Unknown: 14:01

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, honestly, like, that part is, I guess easy because it is the woman I do really like when the woman shares her own story, or I think seven years situation like you shared your wife story, which I also really, really like, I love the surprise feature too. But generally, like, I don't have to worry about coming up with the copy. They provide the photos I'll do like a little intro kind of thing. So I'm not worried about that. But I guess like where like the real light work comes with everything is the communication and the inbox and you know, I'm so bad with my inbox because I'm like, flooded all the time. I always honestly on any given moment, probably have like 25 3040 conversations going like all the time. So that's kind of I guess, where the intense side of things comes in and there's like sometimes where you just like you don't want to like talk to anybody I talk for living. But that's I guess, like the tough part but the posting like I I've never really done that like favorite person social media personally. So I guess it's just different when you're posting with somebody else. Once a day. That's all Right.

JP Gaston: 15:01

I imagine when it started out, it wasn't easy. And you weren't. You know, you said you did it two days before. So you didn't have a game plan? Have you? Have you found yourself iterating and trying new things? Or did you kind of land on something from the start? And you're like, is the work? We're going to do this?

Unknown: 15:17

Yeah, um, I kind of started off with just being like, do whatever you want. And now I do have like a bit of a formula. Again, like I would say, it took like, a couple of months to really figure it out. And yeah, there was those couple of months where I was like, everyday, like, Please tell my story, please.

JP Gaston: 15:34

formatted picture ready to go, just please send it perfect.

Unknown: 15:39

But I've like, honestly, since then gotten into like a pretty good routine with that and how it goes. And it's, it's funny, because I legit just had that thought today. And maybe it was just the fact that we were getting together to talk about I guess, creativity. I was like, should I be changing my process?

Seth Anderson: 15:57

I guess in that No. Like, how would you describe your creative process? And maybe what have you learned about yourself? Like going through this? Because like you said, you were kind of looking for that side gig, that little niche thing where you could sort of express yourself and kind of accidentally stumbled upon it, but like, what have you kind of learned? Yeah. That's such a, such a coaching question. Okay,

Unknown: 16:22

yeah, I don't know what I've what I've learned, I think I've learned that, like, when I really want to do something and stick with something, I'm really stubborn. And I think that is honestly, what drives me is my own stubbornness and challenging myself saying, I'm going to do this every day for an entire year. And then that you're coming to an enemy like, Okay, this has got to keep going. I think in my past, I, first of all, won't do anything if I'm not really good at it right away. Terrible downfall of mine. And we'll do something that I'm passionate about for a little bit, and then it kind of falls off. So I guess what I have learned is that I do have to kind of like, set those goals for myself. And once I do that, I'm really stubborn at sticking to them. Is that an okay? Answer? Does that work?

Seth Anderson: 17:08

Hey, listen, there's no right or wrong process.

JP Gaston: 17:14

I mean, I am keeping score, but it's not a test.

Unknown: 17:18

But yeah, so I don't know, it's interesting, because I guess I never really considered a woman a day to be a creative thing. I guess like it took creativity to come up with that. And you know, my day to day job, also, as a, as a morning show host and like the writing and everything that we do there. On a day on a daily basis. I feel like that is what I've been more so define creativity of as, but it's interesting to look at that that way. And I'm gonna start looking at my pages being creative. Thank you.

JP Gaston: 17:47

Well, do you find like, there's a very, I think, clear distinction between the space you're operating in for yourself here, right? Like you're running this thing, you, I'm sure you have some supports, as you mentioned, you got a chance to get away and you had support. So are these people helping, but it's kind of it's kind of your baby, versus working in a creative environment where you've got to kind of play off other people and get their input and you throw out ideas. And, you know, we talked to off the hop that I've been involved in radio for a while, I've been a part of a morning show. And I know that there are a lot of ideas thrown out. And there are a lot of ideas that are thrown out.

Unknown: 18:24

Yes, absolutely. And, you know, even being in radio for 18 years, I've always say like, I guess that's what this having this thing of my own, that has been my own baby that has been very, very successful, has taught me is like speak up, I really, really have found my own voice. Because even even like three years ago, I wasn't brave enough to like kind of like, contribute to like the big ideas of the show and that kind of thing. And now they can't shut me up. And I'm like, okay, not all my ideas are great, but I'm at least proud of myself for actually actually getting them out there.

Seth Anderson: 19:04

So as part of that, like the momentum of the page, and like seeing it resonate with other people and the following girl just kind of give you the call and say, Hey, maybe maybe I do have some big ideas that I can contribute to this whole thing. Is that sort of what you mean there. Yeah,

Unknown: 19:17

yeah, exactly. It's just kind of given me I guess. Yeah, the competence and, and in speaking to so many different people, and so many people from different paths, I guess has also, you know, I guess taught me that like, hey, like, I've got my own path. I've got my own things to say too, I think. So as much as like I'm providing inspiring stories for other women. They're always inspiring me to write. So yeah, that's been like a big, big help and a big change in the way that I go about, like almost everything, including my job. And it's also been like, really cool to realize that. Again, I didn't know what my niche was. And as much as like this is like, kind of my thing where I'm like in lifting other women up and everything. A lot of things I'm told over and over and over is you're really good at making people feel Good. That's like that's an okay. That's an okay talent to have, right? Like I was always like, what's my thing? And if it's just making people feel good, and I own the hell out of that.

Seth Anderson: 20:09

That's good. There's a quote that quote JP, I think we've said on the show before, but people don't remember what they say they remember how you made them feel. And I want to be sticks with me, except for

JP Gaston: 20:19

the guy who said that quote. We remember what he said, no idea how he made us feel at the time.

Seth Anderson: 20:29

So one other thing that you mentioned, when we were kind of going back and forth for the last little while here is you are a musician. GP, as you can see in the background,

JP Gaston: 20:42

not a musician, just things.

Seth Anderson: 20:49

JP has said that his number one creative expression is via the music. So that's his deal. But you've actually recently started up a band again, and I think it's with a bunch of other radio women in the city. What what's going on with that? Because it sounds super cool.

Unknown: 21:03

Yeah, this is so exciting. So yeah, I've played music my entire life. I am like, a super mediocre. guitar player and piano player. But I've always I've always thing, so yeah, I've been singing like my entire life. My parents are musicians. So I grew up listening to their family, their family band, it's my dad and all of his siblings. And my mom was like, asked to join because she's a good singer, too. They actually opened for blue rodeo in 1991. In meadow Lake, Saskatchewan. Yeah, they're cool, like little claim claim to fame. And then yeah, when I started in college, I kind of started jamming with some buddies and that kind of thing. So yeah, I've kind of been in bands ever since I graduated from high school, I played in a band with my brother for a really long time, which was super fun. My brother and I, at one of my first radio jobs, we worked together, played in a band together and live together, which was awesome. It did get to be a lot.

JP Gaston: 22:02

They don't talk anymore. So yes.

Unknown: 22:06

It did inspire me to be like, Okay, I've got to make a change in my life. And that is when I finally like, took my career a little bit more seriously when I kind of got my first morning show. And that kind of thing says like, I've got to get away from my brother because we hate each other. Love him now. Honestly.

JP Gaston: 22:21

What's the furthest I could get away for am? Let's do that.

Unknown: 22:25

Ireland, I move to an island from from Edmonton to Victoria. That was about as far as I could. Yeah, so yeah, I've been playing in bands here for the last little while. And then I had kids, and I like, oh, I tried my hardest to not have children change my life. But that doesn't work is another thing that I've learned. So I was like, No, I'm gonna keep the band's going. It's gonna be great. So I did for about four months. And then when my daughter was four months old, my guitar player moved to Toronto. And I was like, I just don't have the energy to teach another guitar player like 75 of our songs because we're a cover band. For the most part. I do write a little bit. We have a few originals that will play and everything. But yeah, so then right before the pandemic started, we were kind of getting things going again, in the world shut down. So just this year, back in March for my, I guess, third anniversary for a woman a day on for International Women's Day held an event at trolley five that we turned into a bit of variety night, which was so fun. We had different female talents from Calgary and area. We had a couple of singer songwriters, we had some incredible body positive dancers, which is so much fun, fierce and entertain are fierce and oh my gosh, its face fierce and something entertainment. They're incredible. Yeah, as an indigenous dancer did a couple of fancy dances so nice. But one of the people that I asked to perform is a good friend of mine, Josie, she worked at Virgin for a long time. She's now on country one to five on the morning show. And we had never ever played together but she's an amazing singer. So I asked her to do set. And then one of my old bandmates John Jefferson, who does mornings on x 92. Nine. He played violin with me and my last version of the band that played before children came along and ruined everything.

Seth Anderson: 24:20

Enhanced everything.

Unknown: 24:22

Everything sorry, children love you. But yeah, so I asked her to come and do like a violence that and they were like, okay, but like, are you performing that night? I honestly like you guys. It's so weird. So I was like, No, I think I'm done. I think I'm done with that. And I'm okay with that. I had convinced myself. They're like, No, no, no, come on. Let's Let's slap a couple songs together. So we we practice. The night before the event. We put together two songs. And we performed them I was like, oh shit. I gotta do this again. realize how much I missed that. So yeah, actually, the next day we decided oh, Okay, Josie and Shana, do we do we want to like do this again? Of course. Yes. And we got booked our next gig the next day after we just slapped this band together 48 hours earlier. So we brought in some other musician friends of mine. And we're, I guess like a five piece right now just a couple of acoustic guitars, violinist Josie and I doing vocals and for the morning girls and the mike Sox. And yeah, three morning hosts from around Calgary competitors on the am dial, but really good friends in real life and having so much fun. So we've got another show coming up in the next little while, and my brother's band is actually going to be playing that night as well. So we are still friends. And there's the proof

Seth Anderson: 25:41

really came full circle. I like that.

Unknown: 25:44

It really did. Yeah. And then so the the gig that we ended up playing back in back in April was tool shed brewings 10th anniversary, which just like such a cool business story in the city to so to be able to help them celebrate their 10 years. And we we opened up for a musician that I've admired for a long time, which was like also so bizarre. And again, just this this is just like a slap together band. I managed to get four practices in before we performed and yeah, like now again, like, like JP, like, I don't know if you've ever taken an extended break from music or anything like that. But when you do and then you do it again. You're like it is like getting hit by a bug and you're like, I gotta do it all the time.

JP Gaston: 26:24

Yeah, I, I did a little bit of touring with the band. And then I moved out west left the band. It was, you know, sad moment. So it's probably the saddest part about moving from Ontario to and then yeah, there was a there was a lull there where I wasn't really doing anything. And then when I got back into a band, it was like, alright, we're doing this. We're hitting it hard. So we did like the full West Coast to kind of Manitoba tour. And it was just every day was like a tear in my eye. Like I'm doing it again. I'm not making any money, but damn it. I'm doing it again. Yeah, exactly.

Unknown: 26:57

And that's like what I said to like, this is not because we went when we are chatting with our upcoming gig. And I'm not sure when this is going to be released. That's June 10, Charlie five. But yeah, when we were chatting about it, they're like, so like, what's your gig price and like, that's all I care. Like, I don't need to make money doing this. I honestly, like just want to have fun and it's just like such like, I guess, even though like we're not like playing original songs or anything like that is just such a creative outlet. And we do like make the songs our own. Like we're like this like acoustic band, but we're doing like hip hop songs or like hard rock songs in this like super light kind of you got it. You got to fiddle violin to anything and just like completely changes the tone and everything. Shawna plays like, like one of the songs we do is just the girl by no doubt. She riffs on that solo on her violin. It's like, oh, that's like cool.

Seth Anderson: 27:45

Stuff on her morning show. It's still

Unknown: 27:47

I love it. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. So it's nice. Like, yeah, get Shawna playing again, because she wasn't playing forever. And getting Josie kind of doing this version of of playing music for the first time ever. Like that was your first time ever playing with the band about a month ago and getting to like, I guess help them get that passion back into their lives, too. It's really nice to be able

JP Gaston: 28:08

to do my first exposure to that whole like, rock violin thing was actually McIsaac. And that just like totally changed my perspective on what rock and bend music could look like.

Unknown: 28:21

Yeah, and I don't know, I'm having as much pleasure 10 questions I'm gonna ask.

JP Gaston: 28:27

They've done such a cool.

Unknown: 28:30

They've done such a cool job of like doing contemporary hits with with an orchestra. So I'm like, that's really cool, too. So it's just like, yeah, nice to hear those different spins on some songs that you've known forever and having that kind of classical spin on them. I guess

Seth Anderson: 28:45

that's just made me think of when Metallica did that album with the orchestra. Yes, that was yes. And

Unknown: 28:51

what was what is the other band? Apocalyptica they're like an orchestra. Right? Yeah.

JP Gaston: 28:56

Or like Trans Siberian Orchestra is always just like, incredible. We should introduce them to Darren McGinty. Seth. Dave, yeah. Alter

Seth Anderson: 29:07

Ego.

JP Gaston: 29:08

Yeah, I when, when I was when I moved out here and was touring, we were struggling to get people to properly pay us for our work. So I invented a character named Darren McGinty, who did all of our booking for us, which was actually just me replying to emails. And I like I would hardball the hell out of people with Darren McGinty, and then the band would show up. And of course, Darren is not there. So the band would show up and like No, we just know the agreements, you know, five grand for this gig. So we just need to get paid. That was your agreement with Darren and they would just give us our check. We'd walk away and no one's the wiser. DP

Unknown: 29:43

I was here this month.

Seth Anderson: 29:46

We did bid on that and one of our last year Sometimes I cry laughed when he told that I was like,

Unknown: 29:53

hey, name my alter ego right now for me and I am going to start doing this in every facet of my life because I mislike never want to piss anybody off and gotta keep everybody happy. So I need the alter ego. That's the hard

JP Gaston: 30:05

baller actually colored some Oh, that was just the name that came to me. So that's your that's, that's it.

Unknown: 30:19

I'm recreating her Instagram profile.

JP Gaston: 30:22

She's already got 1000 followers. crazy awesome success currently recalling that whole conversation we

Seth Anderson: 30:34

everything I learned from that I've been applying to working with jokes for the last ever crazy music story. I won't go into it here because we don't really have the time. But I randomly came across this guy when I was in Miami who was ready to quit the music industry. And it's been through a lot. And we've been working together like you want to the last two months, I'm getting up at 5am because he's in Montreal, and we've just been working on like, a business plan and pulling. Because he's got so much music. He's probably got 50 songs, just on this one private SoundCloud, and they're all like really good. But he's went through that whole washing machine of the music industry. And he was just done. But now we're coming up with a plan that I think and everything I know about music management, I learned from Darren McKinney so

JP Gaston: 31:20

write a book. Oh, yeah, he he's had some interesting exchange. I didn't tell Seth about this. So he might still cry laughing again. But he's he's had some interesting exchanges with like, CD Baby, I don't know if you remember them. But they were a big company if you CD manufacturing for like local bands, so you could go to them. And you could be like, Oh, no, I want to print 100 100 CDs and then come back with a price for the or your insert and everything that you know either CDs anymore, so it's no longer relevant but but he used to hardball with them to to try and get CDs printed. And at one point, I had an exchange with them where I offered I offered CD Baby exposure because our band was so big that it would get them exposure as a printing company. And they were they were having conversations with me like they were actually interested. And then my band ended up breaking up. So I was like African and I'm not going to pursue it anymore. But we were like, oh, yeah, an

Seth Anderson: 32:09

Instagram because now you can kind of just validate whether that would be

JP Gaston: 32:13

Oh, yeah, we didn't have a wiki page, that's for sure. There was no Darren McGinty wiki page, but I would have made what I would have paid to make it Darren McGinty wiki page, I got some fake pictures done up. I would have been would have been great.

Seth Anderson: 32:28

I you know, one thing that I noticed actually, before I forget is it seems like there's a common theme on your creative process today that I picked up on which was slapping things together and then just running with it because like to like big examples in here. I was gonna ask you like, it's funny, because when we started this question of the season, we're like, we'll start the episode off but off by asking some of what's your what how do you define creativity, but found that's kind of like a hard question to ask someone. So it's almost better to ask it at the end after we've had this conversation. And just wondering, like, when you kind of sit and pause, like how do you define creativity?

Unknown: 33:05

I guess like you just opened my eyes up to my entire life. Just a series of slapped together that I again, get really stubborn over and make them work. I guess like, I guess that's it going with it like not, if it's something that like gets that spark going in you and gets you fired up and gets you feeling passionate. Don't question it. Don't don't doubt it and just go with it and be really, really hard on yourself. So fall back, I guess that is my creative process. So is Can that be my definition? Does that work?

Seth Anderson: 33:39

It's your process. So yeah,

Unknown: 33:41

yeah, I guess that's it. Yeah. Like, again, like I won't do anything. If I don't like it, I won't do anything if I'm not good at it right away. So that has to be like the two things that go into the slap together. And then I'm just really really stubborn.

Seth Anderson: 33:56

When those two things kind of come together like you're really like you're already good at it and you like it and then you can slap it together and go and then you're really stubborn and you won't give up

Unknown: 34:06

yeah if I can't if I'm if I'm if I'm passionate about it and it's like comes easy to me then I will I will do it. I don't I don't like to work hard.

JP Gaston: 34:16

Says the person who's doing a person a day for four years

Seth Anderson: 34:23

and grandkids every morning at 4am

Unknown: 34:26

I guess I don't consider any of it work which is like the lamest most cliche thing ever. Like, love what you do and you will work and day in your life. But like yeah, like if I'm if I'm not good at it, and I have to work hard at something it just like isn't gonna happen. So I guess I just also know how to realize when I'm getting really lucky and finding something I'm good at.

Seth Anderson: 34:46

I think there's some magic to that though. Because like I I listen to this podcast. I listen to a lot of podcasts one, I hope I've listened to what it was it was like this East Indian guru guy and he was talking about how working hard is stupid. And his example was like the body the human body. If the human body is working hard, what is it doing? It is like combating something like an illness or it is overcompensating for an injury. What is the human body doing when it's working? Well, it's all in sync and then just works.

Unknown: 35:19

That should be our lives. That should be our working lives, right?

Seth Anderson: 35:23

could be it could be yes. Oh man, I've learned so much about myself. This is effectives is good.

JP Gaston: 35:35

I mean, this this whole interview has really been a process of self nominating you for your own woman a day award because like you're you are clearly the definition of the thing that you are awarding others for. So like, huge kudos to you for all the work you do.

Unknown: 35:49

And I am going to practice what I preach and say thank you very much. Not Oh, please do there but I'm telling you,

JP Gaston: 36:00

thank you. If it feels better, like we can we can nominate Ashley Cullerton for the your oh man,

Unknown: 36:07

she's gonna be here for like a month straight. I'm gonna change the whole process. She's getting a residency Well, I honestly like I can I am at the point where I can say like, I am really proud of of a woman today YYC and what I've created there and proud that Yeah, I do have something going on. That just makes me like, want to have something something else happening with me at all times. So I guess I am a little bit like tireless and so I'm just going to keep going with that until until I until I get bored I guess. So yeah, I'm really really proud of everything and how everything's kind of come together in the last couple of years.

Seth Anderson: 36:48

That's really cool. We appreciate you making the time and I have a feeling our paths will cross again here before too long. Just lastly for anyone listening where can they where can they find out more about a woman a day?

Unknown: 37:00

Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram a woman today y y c and shoot me a message there if you have a woman that you would like to highlight celebrate a tribute to it can be as easy as me reaching out to them and being like hey just so you know so and so nominated you or you can do a surprise feature those are always super fun but for me message there and then I guess my personal socials and how you cannot follow this band but we'll see how how long we stick together around the morning girls and the mike socks on Instagram and Facebook and then yeah, I'm all over the place my name nice and a Meyer the hardest thing to sell ever but for some reason. That's what I chose to put in all my socials.

Seth Anderson: 37:42

I've got it down now actually, it's good.

Unknown: 37:44

Oh my goodness.

JP Gaston: 37:46

That's like your password. If you can spell my name you can see my social media that's yes, your version of a CAPTCHA.

Unknown: 37:58

We don't need to swap places in the crosswalk. Just know where the line goes. And

JP Gaston: 38:02

Jeff JP is a little harder to do that with

Unknown: 38:07

for having me this was so much fun. I really, really appreciate the

JP Gaston: 38:10

invite. Thanks for joining us. This has been great and keep creating. Yeah, yeah, well